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http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs Doug: I applaud your efforts. I think the draft looks good. As far as enforcing and rollout: perhaps we can ask each project to report (as a part of their normal reporting cycle) as to whether or not they are conforming to the policy. Brett: I expect the most controversial part is the TM on the logos. Shane: If we take our trademarks seriously, we should have a TM on the logo. Shane: we are also revising the feather to include various formats and sizes, and will be requesting that each project migrate to any updated version as time permits in the future. Jim: my takeaway is that the board is behind the direction: continue on Roy: we have traditionally avoided lawsuits, and TM's make us look corporate. Overall, I'm not thrilled, but am willing to go along. Doug: the lack of TM's has caused confusion in the past, and a TM's will help us socialize this = = =